Why does George Bush think it is better to discard unwanted embryos instead of using them for research?

George Bush has not vetoed a single piece of legislation, but today he is going to take a stand on this? Stopping the federal government from funding research that could cure Alzheimer's and many other diseases. So other countries can do this research and get ahead of us on medical technology. And for what? So that people should throw away unneeded embryos instead of using them for research? Is anyone appalled by this?

Why does George Bush think it is better to discard unwanted embryos instead of using them for research?
once again, this administration is using fear to justify their doings. People are 'afraid' that abortions will be used, they are 'afraid' of the fact that animals and humans are already, and have always been used for testing. They are 'afraid' that the frozen embryo might be the next Einstein, or some other genius we have yet to see from the live births that have taken place since Einstein. They are 'afraid' that their taxes will go up. They are 'afraid' god might see it as condoning abortion. Most are happy to stick their heads in the sand and believe everything the administration tells them without question, for 'fear' the terrorists might get them and their families. It is shameless. I'd personally like to know how many embryos the Bush family destroyed after they were done with their fertility treatments to have the twins. And since the majority of those pregnancies end up being triplets or more, I'd like to know how many fetuses the Bush's destroyed in Laura's womb, to get that number down to two. Anybody who stands on religion for this one needs to understand, those embryos were man made, not ';miracles from god'. End of Rant
Reply:Because it helps the conservatives who were falling away from being on his side to be sure to support him. It is obvious due to his poll ratings that people in both political parties do not approve of Bush. Vetoing stem cell research and gay marriage are both just distractions.
Reply:This is a very difficult question to answer. Personally, I could argue both sides. I don't think it is a question with an easy answer.





Like it or not, upon fertilization, the resulting cells are genetically unique. Does this constitute life? Personally, I think so. Do the cells have feelings? I don't think so. So why throw them away?





Two reasons that I can think of:





1. If being genetically unique constitutes life, it wouldn't be a good idea to set a precedent with using embryos for medical research. This gives researchers the green light to destroy life to further medical research. What if they decided to start to do medical research on living people with mental defects. Afterall, it would be for the greater good and many are unable to sustain life by themselves. The concept of performing medical research on a mentally defective person would be rejected by every sane American (at least I hope), yet both are lives that are incapable of living on their own (before people get mad, I acknowledge that a large majority of "mentally ill" can live on thier own, but some can not). Throwing away a life for medical research is a very dangerous precident to set.





2. Embryonic stem cells have a 0% success rate. Not a single illness has been cured with embryonic stem cells. n fact, embryonic stem cells have been known to cause unrelated illnesses such as tumors.





Why would we use embryos?





1. They are going to be discarded anyway. If a life is going to be wasted (or a group of cells, however you view it), wouldn't it be best to use the life to further the lives of others? IMHO, a great example of this in society is organ donation. A person acknowledges they are going to die (granted usually unexpectedly) so they say take what they need. Use my body to do good for others.





2. Embryonic stem cell research has a 0% success rate (yes, the same arguement as before). No pun intented, but stem cell research is still in its infancy. There is much to be learned. So despite a lack of success now, it does not mean there won't be success in the future. Stem cells should be harvested for the good of medicine.





Just my 2 cents
Reply:i think that instead of using live embryos for research they should use dead ones
Reply:If you have to kill someone to help someone, is that really a good idea? This appalls me. Adult stem cells can do the same thing. If the embyos are unwanted, why are there so many of them? Someone must want them. Abortion is big business, dear. Stem cell research is just another market outlet for the abortionists.
Reply:I am appalled by this because we could cure diseases and we are just getting rid of embryos that we could use to help research. That shows what a dumbass the president is.
Reply:Until we get someone in that office that isn’t lead around by their nose (or aother more tender body part) then we will continue to have stupid decisions made to appease religious groups rather then logical and some times hard decisions made for the betterment of the human race.





This by no means - means that I support creating new embryos only for research. But sometimes we have to do things we don't agree with or even like.
Reply:I'm appalled that he has a moral problem with this, yet has no problem justifying the loss of innocent life in Iraq as "consequences of war".





Hypocrisy at its worst has been on display with this president since he promised to restore "honor and dignity" to the White House.
Reply:Yes he does. He also seems to think that stem cell research will encourage women to have more abortions and begin a black market for fetuses (and no, it won't). Bush is an idiot. He doesn't realize that he is sentencing a few million people to death by NOT doing the research. I am one of them.
Reply:Oh come on now! Surely you know by now that the guy is brain dead. True, other countries will get way ahead of us, and the US will wind up paying through the nose for the technology. I'm appalled by just about everything Bush does. He's a definite himbo ( the male equivalent to the female bimbo).
Reply:yes. and i do, too.





i'm appalled at the thought that you would use a human being for medical testing that will kill it.
Reply:Its just the ethics of it. would you offer up a baby chicken for animal testings? If you did there would be a massive attempt to stop it. Same principal. its just wrong
Reply:Because stem cells can be acquired through other methods. Some of us actually believe an embryo is a human life. And looking at what disgusting things could come from allowing the use of them is enough to make any reasonable person pick up a pen and veto the whole thing.
Reply:because he's an idiot and we should all revolt
Reply:Perhaps Mr.Bush is standing on the pro-life side to avoid any major controversy. I really don't understand his logic. I believe when he steps down, the next president will have to step up to the plate for stem cell research on the discarded embryos. Please vote Have a great day.
Reply:Because he needs to pander to the extreme fundamentalist religious base of wackos, who are the only ones still supporting him. As a result of this foolish policy, the US will soon be light years behind every other nation in this important area of research.





Back to the Dark Ages of digging up corpses and such.





And to reiterate, these are existing embryos which will soon be destroyed. They are not human fuc***g beings.
Reply:Adult stem cells are NOT as effective. If it was I'd like to think that all these scientists would have used them so they wouldn't hear every "christian" bitching and moaning. Secondly, there's absolutely NOTHING human about these CELLS. They can't talk, feel pain [because they have no CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM] or see. They are CELLS. And the sooner these so called Christians wake up and realize that the sooner we can get on with research that could cure some of the worst diseases man has ever faced.
Reply:I do not get it either.Why throw these embryos away as they could be used for great help for others who are suffering.It is not like we are buying these embryos people are going to continue to abort oh this is frustrating
Reply:I'm pretty sure anyone who isn't extremely religious is appalled by that. I'm not sure that embryos would be discarded though, I think the point of the legislation is to make sure that these embryos aren't taken in the first place. The debate is over when life begins, and Bush seems to believe that it begins at conception and discarding the embryos would be murder just as much as research that destroys the embryo would be.
Reply:Why don't you know what you're talking about? Do some research on exactly what the proposed bills say. Don't listen to tv or people in here.





First of all, Bush is the first president to ever fund stem cell research. Second, he opposes funding to create new embryos for stem cell research. There is nothing in the bill about stopping the funding on existing embryos.





Lean the facts before going on a rant.
Reply:Because he supports anything that destroys life (wars, nuclear weapon development) and shoots down everything that protects and promotes life. Such as stem cell research, environmental protection measures, assistance with health insurance for citizens who can't afford it). He wants us to all go backward in human evolution so we can all resemble him a bit more.
Reply:because he doesn't want to upset the religious groups


Yes, I am appalled and I can't wait for a more sane President.
Reply:How about quit your b*tching and find another source to research. Why not adult stem cells? Why does it have to be an "embryos" stem cell?
Reply:Adult stem cells are just as effective for research purposes, and they do not involve the destruction of a life (embryo). I agree with


the President's position this time.
Reply:How many times have you watched "L.A. Confidential", Rollo?